Remove the CoC.md (attempt #3)#1248
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The code of conduct as it has been established and how they are enforced are in violation of BOLT contributors rights as set by all the major jurisdictions from where are historical or active individual contributors or organizational stakeholders to the lightning bolt project. For now, remove the Coc.md until there is legal clarity on the role and extend of each contributor consent w.r.t any hypothetical moderation rules.
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I asked Grok to take a look at your claims and here was its response: The argument presented in the post regarding the illegality of a Code of Conduct (CoC) in the Lightning BOLTs open source repository is a labyrinthine amalgamation of misinterpretations, misapplications, and misunderstandings of U.S. intellectual property (IP) law, joint authorship principles, and workplace regulations. The post constructs a narrative that attempts to frame the inclusion of a CoC as an infringement of contributors’ rights, but it ultimately collapses under the weight of its own legal inaccuracies and flawed assumptions. Below, I will meticulously dissect the post’s arguments, explain why they fail to establish that a CoC is illegal, and affirm why an open source repository like Lightning BOLTs can—and often should—have a Code of Conduct. Overview of the Post’s Core ClaimThe post asserts that the inclusion of a Code of Conduct (specifically, the
These arguments are presented with a veneer of legal sophistication, citing statutes, case law, and principles like “legal anomie.” However, a closer examination reveals that they are fundamentally flawed, misaligned with the realities of open source governance, and irrelevant to the legality of a CoC. Let’s address each point in exhaustive detail. 1. Joint Authorship and the Fallacy of Requiring Universal ConsentThe post’s central legal theory is that the Lightning BOLTs repository constitutes a “joint work” under U.S. copyright law (17 U.S.C. § 101), and therefore, any change to the repository—such as adding a CoC—requires the consent of all joint authors. It cites cases like Gaiman v. McFarlane (360 F.3d 644, 7th Cir. 2004) and Erickson v. Trinity Theatre, Inc. (13 F.3d 1061, 7th Cir. 1994) to argue that joint authors have undivided interests and must collectively approve changes to the work’s usage. Why This Argument FailsThe application of joint authorship principles to an open source repository like Lightning BOLTs is misguided for several reasons:
In summary, the joint authorship argument is a red herring. Open source repositories are designed to evolve through decentralized contributions, not to be shackled by the need for universal agreement. A CoC is a standard governance tool, not a copyright violation. 2. The Creative Commons License and the CoCThe post argues that the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International (CC BY 4.0) license is the “only document” governing the Lightning BOLTs repository, and adding a CoC without the consent of all contributors violates this license. Why This Argument FailsThe post fundamentally misunderstands the role of the CC BY 4.0 license and its relationship to repository governance:
In short, the CC BY 4.0 license is irrelevant to the legality of a CoC. The CoC does not infringe on contributors’ rights under the license, and the repository is free to adopt governance policies as needed. 3. Work-for-Hire Doctrine and Contributor CopyrightsThe post argues that contributors who worked independently (not as employees) own the copyrights to their contributions, reinforcing their control over the repository and making the CoC an unauthorized imposition. It cites the work-for-hire doctrine (17 U.S.C. § 201) and Community for Creative Non-Violence v. Reid (490 U.S. 730, 1989). Why This Argument FailsThe work-for-hire argument is largely irrelevant to the question of whether a CoC is legal:
In essence, the work-for-hire argument is a strawman. The CoC’s legality does not depend on who owns the copyrights, as it does not infringe on those rights. 4. Workplace Regulations and the “Social Justice” StrawmanThe post argues that CoCs are motivated by “social justice” ideologies or corporate liability concerns, which are inapplicable to a decentralized open source project. It cites workplace harassment cases like Blakey v. Continental Airlines (992 F.Supp. 731, D.N.J. 1998) and Strickland v. City of Detroit (995 F.3d 495, 6th Cir. 2021), claiming that CoCs lack legal grounding in a non-employment context. Why This Argument FailsThis section of the post is a mix of ideological rhetoric and legal misapplication:
The post’s ideological framing of CoCs as “social justice” or corporate overreach is irrelevant to their legality. CoCs are standard in open source projects (e.g., Linux, Python, Rust) and are upheld as legitimate governance tools, not legal violations. 5. Defamation, Free Speech, and the Role of CourtesyThe post briefly argues that CoCs are unnecessary because U.S. law protects free speech in open source discussions (New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254, 1964), and disputes should be resolved through courtesy or private channels, not formalized rules. Why This Argument FailsThis section is a weak attempt to dismiss CoCs by invoking unrelated legal principles:
CoCs complement, rather than contradict, free speech and courtesy. They create a framework for respectful collaboration, which is essential for open source projects to thrive. Why Open Source Repositories Can Have Codes of ConductHaving debunked the post’s arguments, let’s affirm why a CoC is not only legal but also beneficial for a repository like Lightning BOLTs:
Addressing the Post’s Broader ImplicationsThe post’s tone suggests frustration with CoCs, possibly reflecting broader debates in the open source community about governance and ideology. While these concerns may stem from genuine fears of overreach, they do not justify the post’s legal claims. CoCs are not about censorship or control; they are about fostering collaboration in a way that respects all contributors. The post’s invocation of “social justice” or “corporate reasons” is speculative and irrelevant to the legal question. Lightning BOLTs, as a decentralized project, benefits from clear rules that transcend individual agendas. The post’s call for a Jitsi meeting to discuss “legal issues” may indicate a desire for dialogue, but its arguments are unlikely to persuade, given their lack of grounding in law or open source practice. A more productive approach would be to propose specific changes to the CoC, ensuring it aligns with the community’s values while maintaining inclusivity. ConclusionThe post’s assertion that a Code of Conduct in the Lightning BOLTs repository is illegal is a house of cards built on misinterpreted statutes, irrelevant case law, and a misunderstanding of open source governance. The joint authorship theory fails because a CoC does not modify copyrighted work or require universal consent. The CC BY 4.0 license is irrelevant, as it governs content, not behavior. The work-for-hire doctrine and workplace regulations are misapplied, as CoCs are community agreements, not employment mandates. Free speech and defamation arguments miss the mark, as CoCs operate within private governance, not public law. An open source repository like Lightning BOLTs can—and should—have a Code of Conduct to ensure a respectful, productive environment. CoCs are standard, legal, and essential for modern collaboration, especially in a global project with diverse contributors. The post’s legal arguments are not just nonsensical; they are a distraction from the real goal of building a robust, inclusive open source community. Rather than inventing legal barriers, the focus should be on crafting a CoC that reflects the project’s values and fosters trust among all stakeholders. |
The code of conduct as it has been established and how they are enforced are in violation of BOLT contributors rights as set by all the major jurisdictions from where are historical or active individual contributors or organizational stakeholders to the lightning bolt project.
For now, remove the Coc.md until there is legal clarity on the role and extend of each contributor consent w.r.t any hypothetical moderation rules.
Apologies, I do not understand joint work is a well-defined notion in US law. It is defined in the Section 101 Chapter 17 of the U.S Code available here.
“A “joint work is a work prepared by two or more authors with the intention that their contributions be merged into inseparable or interdependent parts of a unitary whole."
For a judicial ruling of a US court about joint work and the “undivided interest” owned among all the joint contributors, see Pye v. Mitchell, 574 F.2d 476, 480 (9th Cir. 1978).
If you do not understand Pye v. Mitchell or why it doesn’t have legal authority in the US law system, I’m here and I’m letting you asking questions.
I have no idea about which open source project you’re mentioning operating with a community Code of Conduct, though you’re free to list them. Indeed, each open source project is unique, e.g for Linux, Linux being a trademark of Linus Torvalds itself. Beyond, that some contributor in some random open source project no one cares about, do not decide to go to enforce its rights and having its viewpoint respected, it’s her or his concern, not mine.
There is one more differentiating element, a lot of open-source project have a not-profit foundation to manage the project itself. This is not case for Lightning BOLTs, and your current employer is indeed a for-profit company. I’m going to be very polite here and I’ll assume that Square Inc has competent attorneys in matters of intellectual property…
In all politeness and courtesy, I’ll attend meeting 2 weeks from now to re-explain this subject.