Selecting runners for bottles is a confusing

[FasterFall]

So as mentioned here, I ran into an issue that was due to an outdated runner.

Reading the documentation, I was confused as to why the other runners weren't available for download in the bottle, and it turns out, you can actually get them from the global settings page. I kinda understand that, since it's a global thing, but I think there should be a mention of that there, so you aren't confused.

Now even that is kinda confusing:

You have soda, which is the first one (and the default? at least it was what I had, I don't remember what I did when I first installed Bottles), that is outdated by 2 years.

You have Caffe, by 4 months, the documentation mentions this as the official launcher.

You have Proton-GE, which actually seems up to date, but bottles doesn't support umu as mentioned here, nonetheless, it can work fine for non-steam games a lot of times (and it seems like one of the only one which resolves the Tunic bug mentioned in the post)?

You have Wine-GE, which has kinda stopped doing releases, and the last one is a year old.

You have Vaniglia, idk the deal with it, but it's also 4 months old.

You have kron4ek-wine, which seems up to date? Idk again the deal with it.

TL;DR This is a confusion, lots of things outdated, other things without proper support (like having umu).

[AleksandrDavid]

pick kron4ek if u want wine upstream (the original wine but adding some tweaks for gaming) as a based.
pick Proton-GE if u want valve's wine (which is proton) as a based.

those runners are the only one who still receive update.

for me i've tested Proton-GE for Most Wanted, it lack keys that needed to activated some mods (for example: press H for toggle light. it won't work on Proton-GE but it can on kron4ek), for performance idk i think its same.

if u want Proton-GE runner, then i suggest u to try Faugus Launcher, it have UMU as a back-end.

[Qronikarz]

I did in past report that runners may be confusing, but not much improved there: #2703

Soda is built by Bottles to be the most stable one, because in the past Caffe had some issues since it was built on Wine dev versions. Though both of them are outdated as hell.
Vaniglia is also built by Bottles, but it's a version of Wine without any patches. Never was a fan of that.

Proton-GE is a Proton but made for use outside of Steam.

Kron4ek is updated whenever new Wine dev version releases so it's the newest one which means it either may break programs or make them run for the first time.

UMU support is not possible in current Bottles due to how runners work differently here. It is planned for Bottles Next, but who knows how much time it may take to come out.

tl;dr
Use Kron4ek or Proton-GE and wait for Bottles Next

[AleksandrDavid]

Vaniglia runner's link is broken, i cant download it. why they not either fix it or just remove it from runners selection? idk