a5100 support

[justin8]

Hey,

I'm interested in using your fork of obs1dium's project, there seems to be a ton of fixes for issues I've encountered, but I have no experience with android projects, or how to build the APK. Obs1dium's version was installable via the pcma appspot application without issues, but this one is not available there.

Is it possible to provide an APK for this? or an easy way to install it

Thanks

[KillerInk]

Hi, sorry for answer so latly.
That stuff is only tested with a a6000. For any other device i cant promise that it work.
Will upload the apk the next days.

[KillerInk]

https://github.com/KillerInk/BetterManual/releases/tag/1.5.1_A6000

[justin8]

Awesome! Thanks

[justin8]

It does seem to be completely broken on my a5100, I can't change any settings other than auto/manual on/off and the bracketing/timer functions. no shutter/iso/aperture/etc control. Changing between auto and manual seems to have 2 autos and 2 manuals that have different configurations, which seemed odd. The original better manual worked mostly fine, but crashed occasionally.

[KillerInk]

i think thats caused due the touchscreen. i left it out because a6000 dont have it.
for navigation you have to use the center wheel. to change aperture etc you have to use the right top wheel

[justin8]

Ah, I only use the touchscreen for focusing really, I forgot to try that. The wheel couldn't select the settings in manual mode, and spinning it wouldn't change them.

Also, after I installed this (not sure if this was the cause, but the only other thing I did was swap SD cards) my camera started turning off every few seconds and I had to reinitialize all the settings to get it to work again at all. :/

[KillerInk]

i looked a some pics from the a5100 and it seems it dont have the two top navigation wheels.
how does it work on that from obisidum? you click on iso and swipe on the screen to change it?

a5100

a6000

about sd card.
i have that too when i plugg it to the pc with mtp and move images. after that i have to format the sdcard again. else it could happen that i cant use the inbuild gallery or it starts to reboot the cam.
only way to prevent that behavior is for me to copy the images with the playmemories app.

[justin8]

Ah, interesting. When I get home tonight I'll re-install the obs1dium better manual one and double check how I was able to navigate it previously.

Good to know that it was likely not this that caused issues with the camera though, I was worried for a while until I finally found the reinitialization option that fixed it.

[KillerInk]

i checked the old code and he added there alot swipelistners for the surface. so i think its like touch on the view(iso) and swipe. i have the basic code for swipe inside but not activated

[KillerInk]

i checked my code even more. when you scroll with the disp wheel to iso you should be able to change it with swiping on the screen.
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i see the problem, the swipelistner use the context from the view where it come from and not from the cameraUI

[justin8]

Ok, just reinstalled obs1dium's one. I can swap between the shutter speed, iso and exposure using down arrow on the front spinner/dial thing (the only one I have). And then spin it to change values. to swap auto/manual, or do things like bracketing, burst shots, timer, etc I use the touch screen. The selection shows as green text instead of white.

Installing your branch, there is no green selection, and it's not just hidden, spinning the dial does nothing. Up arrow to change display, changes the display as expected, left/right/down do not seem to do anything. I can touch ISO to make it change to auto ISO or manual, tapping the auto/manual button changes from manual at 1/30 shutter, to 0.4", still manual, then to auto at 0.4", then auto at 1/30th?

The LENR button doesn't do anything, neither does the orange one? (motion compensation maybe? not sure of the icon).

But anyway, the dial controls do not work on the a5100 currently.

[KillerInk]

Lenr is long exposure noise reduction / darkframe substraction
the orange is the imagestabilisation. not sure if both are supported on the a5100.
on a6000 the disp dial gets used to rotate through the items.
the left icons can get activated/used with the enter button. normaly that should work for you.
the bottom wont work cause the swipe listners are using the wrong context.
will look into it when im back from vacation

[justin8]

LENR is definitely supported, I started using better manual to disable it for astrophotography. The button on the UI says it is disabled in your fork, but touching it does nothing, and no buttons seem to let me navigate the menu.

I'm unsure about the image stabilisation. From looking online it seems both the A6000 and A5100 don't have in-body stabilization, but some lenses do?

If I press the center button, it toggles the Auto/manual button, which is green at startup. But I can't change to other items to modify those.

Thanks for looking at this stuff even though you don't have the a5100

[vlousada]

Hi @justin8 , @KillerInk:

If I am not mistaken, the obs1dium app used the center-wheel DOWN key to toggle between modes / "dials" and then we do rotate wheel to increase/decrease or press Enter key to set some other settings. At least the part of code I used back then work that way.
On other hand, Killerlnk* fork (from the really quick code inspection for onDownKeyxxx) seems to ONLY use the Enter key event to toggle things!
I do suspect that something does not apply on a5100 (and so nex6) as opposed to a6000, so it does not go over the “current dial”..
Perhaps the log.txt can give a clue about this issue on a5100…

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BTW, I tried the Killerlnk's APK on my nex-6 and it does crash at very begining... so I could not check regarding the Key Events. I must try on a6300 which is more similar to a6000, tomorrow